Chicken is Meat. Why are Chicken's Eggs Pareve?

There used to be a number of Romanian steak houses in NYC; occasionally, you'd run across a kosher one. I learned about "unborn eggs" in one of the kosher ones because they used to serve them in chicken soup. Kinda like mini hard-boiled eggs. Reply

I don't understand how can you mistake chicken for anything else , especially if you buy the whole bird. It should be Parveh, no question about that. Just like fish , when you buy it as a whole, and can see the breed , considered to be Kosher without any stamps, same should be with the chicken. No one will mistake a whole chicken for beef. Ever. And if someone will, I do not think that we should suffer because of those few that need the label on shampoo explaining not to eat it. Reply

Actually the Torah prohibition is stated with respect to goat meat and milk, not with beef, although of course beef must not be mixed with milk either. Reply

Go vegetarian and then you won’t have to worry about this issue. Getting through Yom Kippur is a nightmare, though... Reply

Can I mix beef fat and chicken fat together for gravy Reply

I thought the reason for this is the milk is life and meat is dead so we don't mix life and death. Are eggs not life? I should just be happy I can have mayo on my sandwich since cheese is out. And keep my mouth shut. Reply

Thanks for the explanation. May I ask a question? If chicken eggs are pareve, then why are lapwing eggs not? (They are considered a delicatesse in the Netherlands). I know a lapwing is not kosher but so are bees but their honey is kosher and this honey is made inside the bee. The bee mixes the nectar inside his extra stomach (crop) with an enzym and regurgitate it into another bee until it is left in the honeycomb. So why is this different? I don't want to be a "smart guy", but I really was wondering. I hope for an answer, thanks! Reply

Excuse my ignorance, but what is all the discussion about confusing others by appearance. Is it more important to appease the judgement of others, who may see someone eat a veggie burger topped with cheese, or appease G-d in faithfully following the rule of Torah. Reply

I have no problem with kosher rulings about chicken. How ever I do believe that God telling the ancients not to cook a kid in its mother's milk, is because the mixing of proteins or amino acids, has the same effect that feeding a cow the meat of another cow, causing mad cow disease, or the same as the canables created by eating the protein of other humans, causing the same disease of the brain as did the cows.

And I believe it may be the cause of most of the neurological diseases, it just takes longer mixing milk and meat than it does by feeding cows the meat of other cows, or people consuming the DNA of other humans. I believe every law G-d gave us. That is every thing called sin, was to save us from the destructive behavior people do that caused disease and death. Reply

I've always resented the fact that I can't mix chicken and dairy due to some ridiculous overzealous Rabbinical interpretation rather than prohibitions found in the Tanakh.

But then I think about it, and realize, gross, who wants to eat chicken and dairy. Like when Italian Americans cover their schnitzel in cheese, grossssssss. Reply

can you mix chicken and beef together? Reply

Very interesting, I did not know this! Thanks for posting this! Reply

G_d told Moses, and Moses told the Israelites (who were complaining about starving) in the desert that, G_d would provide them with meat, and then, quail covered the land. This has nothing to do with interpretation by a rabbi. Reply

Irony of modern day kashrut I had always learned that the reason chicken was considered meat was not as much due to the fact that the person eating it would think he or she was mixing milk and meat, but rather because someone else might think that that person is eating milk and meat. And if that is the case, then why is it ok to produce all of these imitation products? Isn't there the possibility that soy cheeseburgers and fake crab, or imitation bacon, etc. temsmight be perceived to a third party as being non kosher items? And therefore isn't this the same issue that was derived from chicken? Reply

The Chicken Dance I like humour ! Well, tuna steaks may look like meat, but the smell is clearly fishy.
Why fish is not fleishig, and poultry is ?
I dont know ....
Why to be kasher, the birds must be killed by a shochet, and fish not ?
I dont know...
Why ruling poultry as fleishig ages ago ?
Complicated ... But it happened, and as many Nations have their laws, so does the Jewish People.
Many laws are not convenient, like speed limits, tax income, and taxes in general, and so on. So, as long as nobody gets hurt: laws were made to be broken.
On the Jewish part, there is the chumra principle of making the Law more strict then needed to avoid trangressions. So the birds were dragged into the meat category.
Now, in 21st Century, what does one do?
Either keep it as tradition, or don't keep it because we are all "modern".
Judaism goes from very strict observance to totally liberal, and yet we all can remain Jews. Just keep it (Judaism) ! Reply

I love this makhloket I have been questioning why chicken is considered meat for several years now. I appreciate the link in the 07/15/2009 post to "Why isn't chicken pareve?" and I'm glad to see others actively grappling with the question instead of defeatedly accepting the Rabbinic decree.

To the "Rabbis distorting the Torah" post, I say that rather than distorting, we are all constantly fertilizing, watering, and pruning Torah, as a careful gardener does when she cares for a tree. If Torah is truly a "tree of life," then it will always be changing and growing... but of course it will always need its roots and its trunk to survive.

Today, with our wider-spread literacy and access to information, we are more capable of trusting our own inner Rabbi. At the same time, I also value the traditional Rabbinical opinions.

For now, I eat chicken and dairy together. Not because I have decided that this is the right way, but because I struggle with the question, like Ya'akov with the angel. Reply

Why are chickens even Kosher? Why are chickens Kosher, does the Torah not say to not eat of animals that eat dead other dead animals? Reply

shouldnt chicken be parev? i see the point that the anonymous from tel aviv is making. i wouldnt put it in such way (rabbis distorting the torah) but i do wonder if moses and king david had a nice glass of warm milk with their chicken soup? Reply

Rabbis distorting the Torah To suggest that God does not know how to express Himself by saying he meant all living animals in lieu of just the "kid" in the milk and meat law is to belittle God and a continuing ongoing display of massive disrespect. Surely God means what He says and doesn't need help to express Himself- despite what the highly self opinionated Rabbinate believes.

Secondly, if King David, Moshe and Joshua were not treating chicken as "meat" but as pareve, then who are we, to change the Torah?

Thirdly, regarding the theory of chicken resembling meat, does not Tuna steaks look like red meat? I t certainly does, and much more so than chicken or poultry. Why is no-one posseking tuna to be fleishik?

We need to wake up, respect God, abide by His dictums and protect the law that we are not to add or subtract from His laws Reply